![]() I've gone through phases of using eleven's, or even when I wasn't as on top of everything and a little bit more of a broke man, I kinda, whatever I had. Mac DeMarco: I mostly play tens for the most part. You know what I'm talking about? And for a while I became, I could change a string in like 30 seconds on the stage, plop it down, in the middle of a song sometimes. No, it's telling you exactly which one you gotta get in a pinch to slap back on. I mean, I still do it on whatever I'm playing now, but I was the string breaking King for awhile, you know? So the nice thing about Ernie's, and I mean maybe other packs do this but I don't care. But the problem with it was is that it would break strings in the middle of a show. Extremely hard to play, real piece of crap. And I was like, "Damn." Mac DeMarco: I used to play this guitar, I played for years and years and years, hunk of garbage, beautiful sounding guitar. Jimi Hendrix, GP, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's got, what is it, a Hawk or an Eagle on the front? Nice design, kind of psychedelic, you know? And I was like, "Yeah, I guess I'll get those ones. Mac DeMarco: I was probably 13, 14 but I remember being in Avenue Guitars, which is a guitar store in my hometown in Edmonton, looking over the counter and you see the pack. How did this happen?" It's like, makes it special. If it feels the most like it's just coming out of thin air, or like you don't really understand where it came from, or anything like that with guitar playing or songwriting or whatever. A couple chords, you're ripping, your playing Neil Young. Well, I don't want to say that, but anybody can. You know? Anybody could play guitar, you give it a couple. Mac DeMarco: Guitar is a very, it's the people's instrument. It's almost more, it's easier to come up with something you're not like, "Oh well now I could go to the fourth whatever." You know, where everything is supposed to sit more or less, I don't really know, but it puts you out of your comfort zone, which I think is important in a way. ![]() It's like you learning from scratch again. But in a way it was like, if you change all the tunings, and then you have no idea where to grab cords anymore. Mac DeMarco: What I did initially was I used to play in open tunings a lot, which I guess is like a Keith Richards or whoever else thing. You know? And that's probably why most of my songs are still open chord, just chugging along, that kind of vibe. And then even as time progressed and I got a little bit better, and the lessons shifted over to like, do you want to learn how to tap? Or should we try some fusiony style? And that was the part that I was like, nah, I don't really know. I think the song thing always was most important to me. Mac DeMarco: For me, I wanted to learn just songs, like the concept of getting through an entirety of something, because learning rifts is one thing, I can play a little bit of a riff, whatever, you know? But if you can get through, so Beatles songs and stuff like that for me was a big thing. I learned Smoke on the Water on just the low Eastern and then you learn some open chords or whatever, you learn the intro to Stairway to Heaven or something. You start off with like the one string thing. Right around the same time I got into all the classic rock stuff you get into as a young man, and yeah, got hooked. And then picked one up one day while my friends were playing, turned out I could do it a little bit, it was interesting. They're trying to put me in lessons as soon as I was old enough to walk around or whatever. ![]() I was like screw that, I'm not doing that. Never wanted to play guitar when I was a kid, got a family full of musicians, very unappealing. Mac DeMarco: I never thought I would do the music thing. ![]()
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